tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post2732539984007334263..comments2024-03-27T03:49:00.205-05:00Comments on StoverBlog: MWShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04072845997157010606noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-64946670472590915982013-03-20T19:21:18.466-05:002013-03-20T19:21:18.466-05:00http://technologiesuae.com/#rx xanax xanax cheap p...http://technologiesuae.com/#rx xanax xanax cheap pharmacy online - xanax pills what is itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-7346363701299645422008-05-23T09:58:00.000-05:002008-05-23T09:58:00.000-05:00A bit more food for thought.http://firstread.msnbc...A bit more food for thought.<BR/><BR/>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/22/1054778.aspx<BR/><BR/>McCain, once again, out on the campaign trail in attendance at two large fund raising events...while his rivals both took the time (again) to fly back to Washington and vote.<BR/><BR/>This time it was on a GI Education Bill, which would help veterans leaving the service of our military Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08213854035472350593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-61139831503849309192008-05-21T08:41:00.000-05:002008-05-21T08:41:00.000-05:00I've read through all of these comments, and I am ...I've read through all of these comments, and I am glad to hear that the guys of this blog want exactly what is being fought for...EQUAL pay. Yes, the example is of a woman in a horrible situation, but it is still saying ANYONE (not just women). <BR/><BR/>Beyond that, in my personal experience it kind of goes the other way. I WANTED to do the tasks guys were typically given. My family seems toAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-48616391281280011112008-05-01T14:06:00.000-05:002008-05-01T14:06:00.000-05:00Sadly this glaring lack of judgement and interest ...Sadly this glaring lack of judgement and interest from McCain which speaks volumes about his character will fly under the mass media radar due to the Democratic race being a clusterfuck at the present.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06312417141635240054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-71651166286399792722008-05-01T13:20:00.000-05:002008-05-01T13:20:00.000-05:00When I said "if anything, women should be payed MO...When I said "if anything, women should be payed MORE than men if 56%, the MAJORITY, of college graduates are, in fact, women," I meant they should get payed more because this means, potentially, that more women are more educated than men, and thus better able to do their jobs the right way. I do realize, however, that this may not be the case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-57154095527792880332008-05-01T06:26:00.000-05:002008-05-01T06:26:00.000-05:00Second: if anything, women should be payed MORE th...<I>Second: if anything, women should be payed MORE than men if 56%, the MAJORITY, of college graduates are, in fact, women.</I><BR/><BR/>I don't see that the number of members of a sex who graduate should have anything to do with who gets paid higher in the workplace.<BR/><BR/>I do wish there were a better way to quantify actual productivity, so more people could have their pay adjusted by how NSBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15863423180920030789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-2853776614371129202008-04-30T20:19:00.000-05:002008-04-30T20:19:00.000-05:00First: I love that she used "Frack." Makes me gigg...First: I love that she used "Frack." Makes me giggle like a schoolgirl. Second: if anything, women should be payed MORE than men if 56%, the MAJORITY, of college graduates are, in fact, women. I hate that she felt she had to argue with men in her "highly serious political rant" to support this cause. Any man who doesn't degrades the word "man." I'm talking about you, McCain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-28895358348100340712008-04-29T10:49:00.000-05:002008-04-29T10:49:00.000-05:00heathcliff:Your story is very familiar to me, exce...heathcliff:<BR/><BR/>Your story is very familiar to me, except--<BR/><BR/>In my case, while the men didn't complain -- the women did. And rightly so. I spent two years in one job. The first I was part of a team; the second, a team leader. The teams were coed, usually six or seven women and three or four men. (We were all paid the same.) As a team member, I had limited power to react to this kind Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714221583382021996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-8406058752009850202008-04-29T09:08:00.000-05:002008-04-29T09:08:00.000-05:00Nathan,Ahh, ok. Yes, you are correct. I was focu...Nathan,<BR/><BR/>Ahh, ok. Yes, you are correct. I was focusing on the "casting doubt on one part of an argument to invalidate the entire argument", which is the Straw Man, but yes, the argument that "Because this one man who made more had seniority, then all men who make more must have seniority" is a classic case of the fallacy of division. Mea culpa.<BR/><BR/>I went to the website, but I A Strange and Wonderful Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12914380124963219284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-56189660562134737942008-04-29T08:47:00.000-05:002008-04-29T08:47:00.000-05:00^ Sounds like my Wal-Mart days, Heath. I, however,...^ Sounds like my Wal-Mart days, Heath. I, however, always got irritated at the whole "male associate" thing; it was implicit that they required a male to lift big heavy things, so why say it explicitly?<BR/><BR/>I actually started to really resent the mindset at my store of "Women can't do physical work, only men are to lift objects of any size, shape or weight." Our managers would encourage the Cyborg Fighter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06529328565692906761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-81065664548475595442008-04-28T21:04:00.000-05:002008-04-28T21:04:00.000-05:00I believe that the Goodyear story is horrenous. A ...I believe that the Goodyear story is horrenous. A female should never get paid less than a male if they do the same job. <BR/><BR/>Here's my personal story:<BR/><BR/>I once worked for a very large retailer. I worked with four or five females and one other male in the electronics department. Whenever there was a ladder to be climbed or a television to be carried or a truck to be unloaded - guess heathcliffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12434259852277119200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-18207093314737762282008-04-28T16:45:00.000-05:002008-04-28T16:45:00.000-05:00Scott, don't hate to do it. Before today I've neve...Scott, don't hate to do it. Before today I've never in my life considered a list of logical fallacies. Now, by virtue of this discussion, I may learn something.<BR/><BR/>The way the fallacy of division is described on whatever website I looked at is essentially: The assumption that something applicable to a thing is applicable to all parts of that thing. In this case, because anon's co-worker hadNathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714221583382021996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-11951938028467382242008-04-28T15:06:00.000-05:002008-04-28T15:06:00.000-05:00I hate to bring this up, but technically, the Fall...I hate to bring this up, but technically, the Fallacy of Division is used to argue that the specific has all properties of the whole. <BR/><BR/>This is more of an example of the Straw Man fallacy, which I don't believe is one of the classic logical fallacies, more of a rhetorical device.A Strange and Wonderful Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12914380124963219284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-39325268972331968762008-04-28T13:53:00.000-05:002008-04-28T13:53:00.000-05:00That's okay, Nate. I know who you are.Thanks for p...That's okay, Nate. I know who you are.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for posting the cover, btw.MWShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04072845997157010606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-49047938442795479832008-04-28T13:15:00.000-05:002008-04-28T13:15:00.000-05:00Or Dicto Simpliciter, as a hasty internet search t...Or Dicto Simpliciter, as a hasty internet search turns up?<BR/><BR/>This is Mastadge, by the way. Blogger can't seem to keep my login info straight.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714221583382021996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-34124885629248425792008-04-28T13:06:00.000-05:002008-04-28T13:06:00.000-05:00I believe it's the Fallacy of Division. Don't know...I believe it's the Fallacy of Division. Don't know the Latin term.Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08714221583382021996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-2462143274796272962008-04-28T12:14:00.000-05:002008-04-28T12:14:00.000-05:00Oh, and for the record?I recounted the Anonymous p...Oh, and for the record?<BR/><BR/>I recounted the Anonymous poster's quibble not because I think it's worth responding to, but because my inability to come up with the Latin term is bugging the shit out of me.<BR/><BR/>Somebody help out, huh?MWShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04072845997157010606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-80676417948903989252008-04-28T12:11:00.000-05:002008-04-28T12:11:00.000-05:00Oh, and Shane?She's a big BS:G fan, dating back to...Oh, and Shane?<BR/><BR/>She's a big BS:G fan, dating back to the old days. Hence the "frack." At least she didn't characterize the Republican position as "felgercarb."<BR/><BR/> She's also the author of most of the WILLOW FILES Buffy tie-ins, and (I think) a Babblealot 5 tie-in or two, as well as some swell originals like AFTERAGE and FINAL IMPACT.MWShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04072845997157010606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-15239053502677301682008-04-28T12:07:00.000-05:002008-04-28T12:07:00.000-05:00Anonymous posts are not allowed on this blog.For t...Anonymous posts are not allowed on this blog.<BR/><BR/>For those of you who are interested, that one purported to be from a 22-year old male who was making $0.24/hour less than a female co-worker, who had been at the company a full year longer. He was suggesting that Von's story was possibly the result of seniority issues.<BR/><BR/>This is bullshit. It's an old, old rhetorical tactic: to cast (MWShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04072845997157010606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-27549946187248761412008-04-28T11:02:00.000-05:002008-04-28T11:02:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7013600.post-24800145251876218802008-04-28T10:37:00.000-05:002008-04-28T10:37:00.000-05:00Hey, she gets my support just for using the word "...Hey, she gets my support just for using the word "frack" in her highly serious political rant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com